VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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GingerSweetGirl said:
I've thought about this and I'm totally fine with the model as is. Maybe it would have been nice to have a couple more lines to age her a little; but Daz is difficult and I can roll with the fantasy. I mean, it's like how Lexi Belle (yes guys, I've watched porn too) spent like five years of her career playing 18 year old school girls, just roll with it. But Sophia's age creates all sort of inconsistencies that my OCD brain can't accept.


That isn't specifically addressing educational attainment. Here's a nice article from the NYT that discusses the gap in births and educational attainment.

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But the important tidbit for our discussion is that the average age of a first time mom with a college degree or higher is 30.3 years.

The driving force behind the overall increase from 21 to 26 is that the percentage of women pursuing higher education has exploded since the 70s. An emerging demographic trend is how lopsided college enrollment and graduation rates are towards women. More women are applying for college than men, and more of those women are finishing their degrees than their male counterparts. This goes hand in hand with women waiting longer, and having fewer children, as their educational attainment increases.

In 1980, 13.6% of American women had a bachelor's or higher. In 2000, it had increased to 23.6%, and in 2020 it was 38.3%. Since 2014, women with a bachelor's or higher have equaled or exceeded men. This increase in educational attainment is causational to the corresponding increase of a women's first birth that you noted.

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Again, we're waaaaayyyyyy into the weeds on this one and I apologize to everyone that comes here looking for "Is moving!". The point simply is that, even in 2000, Sophia would have been a statistical anomaly. That doesn't make it impossible, just highly improbable.
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You play for a special woman or for the average gray mouse. A special woman in statistics does not fall that is why it is special.
 
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Kakato said:
Indeed. Looks like Mary got hit by a Truck in the last update.:eek::eek::eek: LMAO. If this happens to Sophia, I'm gonna drop this game. hahahahaha. Sure, L&P can make her look a bit more mature if he wants. As long as it doesn't get close to Mary's Level, I'm fine. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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I think it was brave of the developer to let Mary age like that. Even if I think that he has exaggerated. In almost all games MILFs are characterized only by having bigger breasts and a thicker well-shaped butt. These are all traces that life has left on them. Sophia is also such a woman. Sometimes when the light is right she appears a bit older, but when she's naked the realism goes down the drain. I recently saw a picture of a woman who was said to be 50 years old. Except for the face, her body looked like that of a 30-year-old woman. But the woman was a bodybuilder and spent the whole day only with herself and her body. Ok, this game is an erotic novel and of course you want to hide the reality. And so it is also allowed to pump the virtual models with Botox. Nevertheless, it always bothers me to see a character who has given birth to children, is almost forty years old and then seems to have a face that would belong to a 15-year-old. Just as it bothers me that a 40-year-old man who rarely does sports has a washboard stomach.
So no, I wouldn't give up on the game if the developer made Sophia look a little older.
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
Again, we're waaaaayyyyyy into the weeds on this one and I apologize to everyone that comes here looking for "Is moving!". The point simply is that, even in 2000, Sophia would have been a statistical anomaly. That doesn't make it impossible, just highly improbable.
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Yeah, right... you first did the math and then presented statistical proofs that shattered before our eyes the image of an outstanding woman like Sophia that we patiently built in our minds during this journey. And now you apologize for what, that little thing of ruining an otherwise *perfect and realistic* game for us? :p :ROFLMAO:

Jokes aside, I never paid attention to all those details nor did the math, mostly because I'm not very familiar with the (details of the) whole US education system. I just blindly used this information to build the image of Sophia that he probably wanted to convey: a smart and emancipated woman, interested in the arts and science who had her share of fun back in the days (not as much as her sister) but at the same focused on her education and teaching career. Then life happened and she had to adapt becoming a loving wife and caring mother without completely giving up her interests.
For once ignorance is bliss so I didn't have any dissonance with the RL system. Well, not anymore, thanks to you :D

I agree that placing Sophia in her mid forties would have been a more believable choice for the story and for the character. And I hope the choice was not made to respect some "imposed age limit" or to adjust to the common fetishes. It's one of those things that (IMO) an artist should never compromise when he's telling HIS story or giving HIS vision.
 
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sept0342 said:
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The next update is special in different ways. Not just that it's the first update of Part 2, it will also have some changes plus a totally new branch for the future of the game!
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Why does he have to be so bloody secret about everything?
So who will Sophia leave Liam for?
 
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hzjujk said:
I think it was brave of the developer to let Mary age like that. Even if I think that he has exaggerated. In almost all games MILFs are characterized only by having bigger breasts and a thicker well-shaped butt. These are all traces that life has left on them. Sophia is also such a woman. Sometimes when the light is right she appears a bit older, but when she's naked the realism goes down the drain. I recently saw a picture of a woman who was said to be 50 years old. Except for the face, her body looked like that of a 30-year-old woman. But the woman was a bodybuilder and spent the whole day only with herself and her body. Ok, this game is an erotic novel and of course you want to hide the reality. And so it is also allowed to pump the virtual models with Botox. Nevertheless, it always bothers me to see a character who has given birth to children, is almost forty years old and then seems to have a face that would belong to a 15-year-old. Just as it bothers me that a 40-year-old man who rarely does sports has a washboard stomach.
So no, I wouldn't give up on the game if the developer made Sophia look a little older.
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Beautiful comment. Why I hang out here hoping to be surprised.
 
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sept0342 said:
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The next update is special in different ways. Not just that it's the first update of Part 2, it will also have some changes plus a totally new branch for the future of the game!
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OMG. I think I'll book a boat to Monte Carlo and disappear till summer.
 
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